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 Post subject: New Flatwater Motto
PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:36 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:16 pm 
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Uh, what was the old Flatwater Motto again?

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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:47 pm 
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"Uva uvam vivendo varia fit" (We don't rent pigs)? :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:43 pm 
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"Uva uvam vivendo varia fi!
shouldn't it be
"Uva uvam dare varia fi?

Well maybe 007 does. Have you looked at the fat thing he likes on Thong of the day?

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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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Well, as a Known Tetrologist.....I'm pretty sure Woodrow and Gus weren't Latin majors and it seems to me that the possibly illiterate former slave, Deets, painted it........but here's the way a bullshit college literature professor would discuss it from Wiki....

"The sign for Gus McCrae and Woodrow F. Call's Hat Creek Cattle Company includes a Latin motto, "Uva Uvam Vivendo Varia Fit," which appears to be a reference to a proverb first attributed to Juvenal. The proverb, "Uva Uvam Videndo Varia Fit" is translated as "A grape (uva) other grapes (uvam) seeing (videndo) changes (varia fit)." Some readers think McMurtry's substitution of "vivendo" for "videndo" is an artifice used to underscore Gus's lack of education and unfamiliarity with Latin; but later, when Call asks Gus about the motto, he is interrupted while explaining "uva, uvam, fit, double fit, ..." while pointing to the sign (or the crew, perhaps). Having established that, McMurtry gains nothing by adding a spelling error that only Latin scholars would catch. Likewise, it seems unlikely — as other readers have suggested — that the substitution was simply a typographical error. Although the substitution is ungrammatical, "vivendo" means "living," turning the phrase "A grape changes when it sees other grapes" to "A grape is changed by living with other grapes" or, since we are not really concerned with grapes after all, to "We are changed by the lives around us." The author's alteration takes on greater significance in light of the larger themes of the narrative that deal with how one leads one's own life, and with living itself. These themes are underscored by other remarks that characterize their journey, such as: (1) "you ride with an outlaw, you die with an outlaw" when Jake is found with the horse thieves; and (2) a comment Gus made to Call: "It ain't dyin' I'm talkin' about ... it's LIVIN!"; all best understood as parabolic references to the true vine and Vinedresser from Jn 15:1."

Now as for Steve's tastes in the fairer sex......I don't think I see a problem there! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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Send a postcard when you get back home, Bob!!

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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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Larry is that French for "Honey heres' my penis" ?

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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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That'd be a very loose translation, Rockie. You can google that one. Spoken by an English king (when they still spoke French at court) as he picked up a lady's garter. It's the motto of the Knights of the Garter.

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 Post subject: Re: New Flatwater Motto
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If she wasn't loose she wouldn't have dropped the garter. Pete isn't coming though.

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